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合理懷疑

在2025.2.18號，我寫的文章裡面，提到對於入大定3年沒有改變一個人感到懷疑？

合理懷疑是技術性的入定，不是真正的實力才會沒有作用？

藏密本身歷史很長，加上高山有利於入定的進行，應該有發展出一套屬於修行的技術指導。

而這是我根據電影的情節思考出來的內容。

讀者認為我寫技術性的入定是錯誤的，

但如果不是技術性的入定，怎麼可能一位受過如此深定訓練過的人物，功力如此淺薄？

受過三年深定訓練的修行者尚且如此，那其他人怎麼辦？

讀者自己有懷疑也不去查證其他資料，就在那邊七嘴八舌，

台灣的文化其實很不好👎
根本不像一個有高等教育的地方？

半寄

以下AI資料：

從藏醫的理論體系、密宗的修行儀軌（如「辟穀法/取精華法」），以及現代生理學的角度來看，「光靠在皮膚塗抹藥草」來維持入定者長達數年的生命，在生理學上是不可能的，但在藏傳佛教與藏醫的文化傳承中，確實存在類似的「輔助維持機制」。

這可以從以下三個層面來解析：

1. 現代生理學與皮膚吸收的極限（現實不可能）

能量與水份無法透過皮膚補充：皮膚的主要功能是防禦與屏障。雖然某些小分子藥物（如貼片）能經皮吸收，但代謝所需的熱量（蛋白質、碳水化合物、脂肪）與大量水份無法經由皮膚滲透吸收。

代謝停止的假象：人體即便在極低代謝狀態下，器官運作仍需消耗能量。若沒有消化系統提供營養，身體會先消耗脂肪與肌肉，數週至數月內即會器官衰竭。

2. 藏醫與密宗的實際作法：辟穀與草藥輔助（文化與修行真實性）

藏傳佛教與藏醫學（Sowa Rigpa）中確實有針對長期閉關者（如修行「楚倫」Bcud-len，意為「取精華」或辟穀）的特殊照顧方式：

「取精華法」（楚倫，Chülen）：修行者在長期閉關前或期間，會服食用特殊草藥、礦物與酥油製成的微小藥丸（如含有紅景天、雪蓮、綠絨蒿等高山藥材）。這類藥丸並非經皮塗抹，而是極少量的口服，用以維持基本微量營養與中樞神經調節。

外用藥膏與藥浴的作用：藏醫確實會使用藥膏（塗抹）或藥浴來幫助長期坐禪的僧人。但其目的不是「提供熱量與營養」，而是：

防止褥瘡與肌肉萎縮：長時間維持同一坐姿，塗抹藥膏並搭配按摩能促進氣血循環。

調節體溫與風息（Lung）：藏醫認為長期閉關易導致「風疾」（類似神經系統紊亂或心神不寧），特定的草藥油塗抹於特定穴位（如頭頂、心口、脊椎）能起鎮靜與保護作用。

3. 高級閉關者的生理狀態：冬眠般的「滅盡定」

藏傳高僧在進行長達數年的嚴格閉關（如電影《色戒》中的三年三月三天）時，生命的維持主要依賴極度降低的基礎代謝率：

呼吸與心跳降至極低：透過深度的禪定（如大圓滿或手印法門的氣脈明點修持），心跳與呼吸會減緩至肉眼難以察覺的狀態，大幅減少消耗。

定期進食與出定：在現實中的「三年閉關」，修行者通常並非整整三年完全不吃不喝、處於凍結狀態。閉關房通常設有小窗，定時由外部護持者提供少量簡單飲食（如糌粑、酥油茶、水）；或者修行者會分階段入定與出定，而非單次入定三年。

總結來說

如果電影或傳說中提到「塗抹藥草讓入定者活下去」，這屬於將藏醫的「外用氣血調理藥膏」與「密宗辟穀草藥（楚倫）」進行文學誇張後的結合。

在現實中，藥草塗抹扮演的是保護皮膚、調節氣血與維持體溫的輔助角色，而真正讓入定者活下來的，是極低代謝的禪定狀態，以及閉關期間微量且嚴格控制的飲食補充。

Supplementary Note 2

Reasonable Doubt

In the article I wrote on February 18, 2025, I mentioned that I had doubts about the idea that entering a deep meditation state for three years could change a person without producing any real improvement.

My reasonable suspicion is this: Was it only a technical method of entering deep meditation, rather than true spiritual power, that caused it to have little effect?


Tibetan Tantric Buddhism has a very long history. Also, living and practicing in high mountains may be beneficial for deep meditation. Because of this, it would be reasonable to think that they may have developed their own techniques and methods for spiritual practice.


This is what I thought about after watching the movie and considering its storyline.

Some readers believe that I was wrong to describe it as a technical form of meditation.

But if it was not merely a technical method, then how could someone who had received such deep meditation training for three years still have such limited spiritual power?


If a practitioner who has undergone three years of intensive meditation training is still like this, then what about everyone else?


Some readers had doubts about what I wrote, but instead of checking other information or doing further research, they simply started criticizing and arguing about it.


This makes me feel that Taiwan’s discussion culture can be quite poor. 👎

Sometimes it does not seem like the kind of environment one would expect from a place with a highly educated population.

Master Banji

(AI IData)

According to Tibetan medicine, Tantric Buddhist practices, such as Chülen (Bcud-len, the “extraction of essence” practice), 

and modern physiology, simply maintaining a person for several years by applying herbs to the skin would not be physiologically possible.

However, Tibetan Buddhism and Tibetan medicine do have traditional methods that may help support practitioners during long periods of retreat.

There are three main ways to understand this:

1. The limits of modern physiology — not realistically possible

Energy and water cannot simply enter the body through the skin.

The skin is mainly a protective barrier. Although some small molecules, such as certain medicines, can be absorbed through the skin, the body cannot obtain enough calories, protein, carbohydrates, fat, or water through the skin to survive for years.

Even if the body’s metabolism became extremely slow, the organs would still need energy to function. Without nutrition, the body would eventually use its fat and muscle and, after a period of time, the organs would begin to fail.

2. Tibetan medicine and Tantric practices — fasting and herbal support

Tibetan medicine, known as Sowa Rigpa, has traditional practices for people who spend long periods in retreat.

One example is Chülen, sometimes translated as “extracting the essence.” Practitioners may take very small amounts of special preparations made from herbs, minerals, butter, and other ingredients.


These preparations are taken orally. They are not meant to provide all the normal nutrition needed by the body, but traditionally they are believed to help support the practitioner during long periods of practice.

Tibetan medicine also uses herbal oils, ointments, and medicinal baths.

Their purpose is not to provide enough calories or nutrition through the skin. Instead, they may be used to:

* protect the skin;
* reduce problems caused by sitting in one position for a long time;
* support circulation and body comfort;
* help regulate body temperature;
* and support the practitioner’s physical condition during retreat.

3. The physical state of advanced meditation

Some Buddhist traditions describe very advanced states of meditation in which breathing, heart rate, and metabolism may become extremely slow.

However, this should not be understood as the same thing as putting the human body into true hibernation.

In real-life Tibetan three-year retreats, practitioners generally do not remain completely motionless, without food or water, for three continuous years.

Retreat rooms may have small openings through which food and water can be provided by attendants. 

Practitioners may also go through different stages of meditation, eating, drinking, resting, and coming out of meditation.

In conclusion

If a movie or legend says that applying herbs to the body can keep a person alive while they remain in deep meditation for years, it is likely a fictional combination of different traditional ideas.

In reality, herbal applications may have supportive or therapeutic purposes, while survival during a long retreat would still require some form of nutrition, water, and normal bodily function.

Therefore, my point is not that the movie’s explanation must be scientifically correct.

My point is that it is reasonable to question the explanation and investigate whether the “three years of deep meditation” described in the story represents genuine spiritual attainment, or simply a technical method of entering a deep meditative state.