2025年2月18日 星期二

入定-讀書會拾穗2 Meditation –Study Group Insights 2

入定-讀書會拾穗2

佛法四禪八定,入定的分類「非想非非想天」意思是人腦到達了幾乎不再動的地步。

人活著,但大腦活動力降到最低!

 

沒有辦法入定的人也可以想像你的肉體在歷經這種狀態以後怎麼可能不起變化?

 

入大定三年後,我敢說他肯定是沒有辦法跟一般人在一起的,

 

除了用技術性入定的形容詞外沒有其他的說法,

「技術性」來自修行經驗的傳承,俗話稱靈魂出竅,

既然是「出竅」找到「竅門」就在肉體自由進出,跟實際入「非想非非想定」是

不一樣的,所以入定三年還會產生不能想像的離譜行為!

 

靈魂在肉體自由進出而已,他也沒有進步什麼、增長什麼?

 

而且,還有一個疑問他靈魂跑出去都在幹什麼?這也必須是研究去清楚的,

電影中的格西還算是有正義感的人,有些人打坐看似坐著卻常常去做傷天害理的事。


 2026.9.13 增加說明

我在寫入定的時間問題,


有讀者反應說:之前提過的西藏電影入定時間是錯誤的,在此
增加說明。


西藏有部電影拍攝入定的情形
,
情節中讓觀眾誤以為是入定三年,那根本是不可能的,

因為人早就餓死了!

由台灣的廣欽老和尚自述他在大陸入定過久,出定後,
差點餓死可以佐證。

我查了一下西藏入定有的紀錄
最長也3-4個月。

閉關三年跟入定三年是不一樣的,

閉關由別人送進衣食,

入定是完全不吃不喝,連呼吸都到達很慢,所以超過一定的時間,
人體一定會餓死,沒出定就是直接往生。

所以電影的拍攝情節是完全誤導的,

那電影一開頭就拍攝格西出定的情形,應該是先閉關之後,


再配合入定的時間共長達三年,


是比較合理的實際情況。

謝謝讀者提供意見。


半寄

AI資料:
影片開頭
電影一開場,畫面展示
北印度拉達克(Ladakh)荒涼雄偉的高山景色,隨後鏡頭來到懸崖峭壁上的石窟閉關房。幾位僧人敲響法器、吹奏號角,專程下山迎請已在洞穴中不吃不喝、入定修持了「三年三月三天」的達世出關


 

Meditation –Study Group Insights 2

 

In Buddhist teachings, the Four Jhanas and Eight Absorptions describe different levels of meditation. The "Realm of Neither Perception Nor Non-Perception" refers to a state where the brain has almost ceased all activity. The person is alive, but their brain activity is reduced to a minimum!

 

For those who cannot reach this state of meditation, you can still imagine how your body might change after going through such a state.

 

I am certain that it is hard for someone who has stayed in samadhi for three years to interact with ordinary people.

 

It is only technical meditation that can describe this state of meditation. 

The term "technical" refers to the transmission of meditation practice experiences. Commonly, it is called the soul "leaving the body." In this state, the soul finds an exit and can freely move in and out of the body. The level of this meditation is different from actually entering the state of "neither perception nor non-perception." And that is why one who has been in deep meditation for three years should still have unimaginably excessive behaviors.

The soul’s being able to move freely in and out of the body doesn't imply any real progress or growth. There's also the question: when the soul leaves the body, what is it doing? This needs further research and understanding.

In films, the lama is usually portrayed as a righteous person. However, some meditators may appear to be sitting in mediation, but often actually engage in harmful actions.

The methods and content in meditation are intricate. My book The Ultimate Realization of Buddhism discusses the Four Jhanas and Eight Absorptions.

 

Master Banji

 

(For English-speaking readers, the ebook is available on the blog)

 

2026.9.13

Supplementary Note

 

While discussing the issue of time in meditative absorption,

a reader noted that my earlier reference to a Tibetan film was inaccurate. Clarification is provided here.


 

A Tibetan film portrays a practitioner in deep meditation,

leading viewers to believe that he remained in that state for three years. This is simply impossible.

A person would have died of starvation long before that.

 

Master Guangqin of Taiwan once stated that after an extended period in meditation in mainland China, he nearly died of starvation upon emerging, which supports this point.

 

According to available records, cases of meditative absorption in Tibet last at most three to four months.

 

A three-year retreat is not the same as three years in meditation.

During retreat, others provide food and daily necessities.

In contrast, during deep meditation, there is no eating or drinking, and even breathing becomes extremely slow. If it lasts too long, the body cannot survive. Failure to emerge from meditation would result in death.

 

Therefore, the film’s depiction is misleading.

 

The opening scene shows a geshe emerging from meditation. A more reasonable interpretation is that he first underwent a long retreat, combined with periods of meditation, totaling three years.

That would be closer to reality.

 

My thanks to the reader for the correction.

 

Banji



(AI Data): Opening Scene
The film opens with the stark mountains of Ladakh in northern India. The scene then shifts to a cave retreat on a cliff. Monks sound ritual instruments and horns as they descend to receive Tashi, who is leaving a sealed retreat after “three years, three months, and three days” without food or drink in meditative absorption.





 




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